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    Lie Detection

    Post by Wayward Daughter on Sun 11 Dec 2011 - 21:52

    What ways are there of getting round there? I know there are abilities like stealth or deception, saying a lie without knowing it's a lie, and possibly saying a truth which'd be misinterpreted, but are there any others?


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    Re: Lie Detection

    Post by Superheroesfanatic-IR on Tue 13 Dec 2011 - 16:37

    maybe some sort of information bocking or shield.


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    Re: Lie Detection

    Post by Wayward Daughter on Tue 13 Dec 2011 - 17:38

    Kk, yeah I'd forgotten Info Concealment, Blocking, Cloaking etc. But I was asking more about non-ability ways, really. I'm referring to W5, where my characters have select secrets and lies they'd like to be able to keep undetected whistle Or we could just go with Gabriel not having Lie Detection in that world, since it is borderline and he hasn't used it there to my knowledge?


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    Re: Lie Detection

    Post by Superheroesfanatic-IR on Tue 13 Dec 2011 - 18:01

    hmmm... unless they answer the question without lying. But slyly not answer the direction directly.


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    Re: Lie Detection

    Post by Wayward Daughter on Tue 13 Dec 2011 - 18:05

    That's what I was thinking shrug But when the truth is like the complete opposite of the neccessary lie, it's a bit difficult!!


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    Re: Lie Detection

    Post by Mrs P Sylar on Tue 13 Dec 2011 - 22:51

    There's a way to cheat on actual lie detector tests, by stabbing yourself with a pin, that apparently messes with the answers Razz But aside from powers, I don't think there's a way to be immune Razz Unless you're naturally a very good liar, because I'd guess if you want a weakness, you could say that if you could keep your heart rate level and breathe regularly, you would be able to get away with cheating?


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    Re: Lie Detection

    Post by Wayward Daughter on Tue 13 Dec 2011 - 22:57

    Damn..... can he please not have it, then? Cause I can't imagine Saph never having to mention the fake breakup or giving up fighting in front of him or Pippa, and I don't particularly want Peter to have to cover it up with Stealth..... yeah, I've remembered all the lies they're meant to be using Wink


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    Re: Lie Detection

    Post by Superheroesfanatic-IR on Thu 15 Dec 2011 - 17:38

    i guess it depends on the way lie detection or lie detecting abilities work. If they work by monitoring heart rate an sensing when a person is nervous thus must be lying, i guess you could get around it, but if its by knowing a lie by means of reality manipulating/knowing then i guess not shrug


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    Re: Lie Detection

    Post by Wayward Daughter on Thu 15 Dec 2011 - 20:06

    It's the first option, that's confirmed. And if it worked by sensing the truth, it wouldn't matter if the speaker believed the lie or not.


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    Re: Lie Detection

    Post by Wayward Daughter on Tue 9 Apr 2013 - 15:00

    Just thought up a few more questions about this ability. Basically, would the ability sense lies which were written instead of spoken, or sign languaged? If the person possessing the ability was deaf, would they sense a lie which was lip read?

    Similarly, could Truth Activation force a person to write or sign the truth too?


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    Re: Lie Detection

    Post by Neodraconis on Tue 9 Apr 2013 - 22:07

    I think you could manipulate the truth to something complete opposite, though it would be very hard. Or just avoid to answer the question, then the person wouldn't be lying.


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    Re: Lie Detection

    Post by Wayward Daughter on Tue 9 Apr 2013 - 22:28

    Being really silent would be suspicious though Razz I think in W5, Pippy agreed to pretend he didn't have it, or too much would get exposed.

    Any ideas for my questions in the last post?


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    Re: Lie Detection

    Post by Neodraconis on Wed 10 Apr 2013 - 10:46

    I actually think that depends on the limits one wants to set on the ability. Maybe the written thing depends on if the person is there or if it was a letter sent to the person with the ability, like distance. And if the person can kind of sense how the heart rate is increased and all the different tells that appears when people lie, and the deaf person who mimes or use sign language, written text is a moderate lair, then maybe it could work on it.


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    Re: Lie Detection

    Post by Wayward Daughter on Wed 10 Apr 2013 - 12:19

    Good call, I don't think normal lie detection would work on a letter read when the writer isn't there. Similarly, it shouldn't really work if you were talking to someone on the phone.


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    Re: Lie Detection

    Post by Neodraconis on Wed 10 Apr 2013 - 12:50

    Exactly.


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