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    Stuff i dont get

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    Post by Wayward Daughter Fri 21 Aug 2009 - 20:11

    Superheroesfanatic-IR wrote:another thing i dont get is

    when angela told sylar that she was his mother...

    angela didnt know arthur was alive...

    so how did arthur know to say he was the father of sylar?

    Maybe he read it from Peter or Sylar's minds.

    Is anyone ever going to answer me?
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    Post by Flying Man! Fri 21 Aug 2009 - 20:14

    Flickerflame wrote:
    Superheroesfanatic-IR wrote:another thing i dont get is

    when angela told sylar that she was his mother...

    angela didnt know arthur was alive...

    so how did arthur know to say he was the father of sylar?

    Maybe he read it from Peter or Sylar's minds.

    Is anyone ever going to answer me?

    Remember in Villains thats when the orders were to get Sylar to prove his ability
    maybe theey planned it together
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    Post by Wayward Daughter Fri 21 Aug 2009 - 20:14

    That episode was set after his "death" though.
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    Post by Superheroesfanatic-IR Fri 21 Aug 2009 - 20:19

    Know-It-All Josh wrote:
    Flickerflame wrote:
    Superheroesfanatic-IR wrote:another thing i dont get is

    when angela told sylar that she was his mother...

    angela didnt know arthur was alive...

    so how did arthur know to say he was the father of sylar?

    Maybe he read it from Peter or Sylar's minds.

    Is anyone ever going to answer me?

    Remember in Villains thats when the orders were to get Sylar to prove his ability
    maybe theey planned it together

    nah i dont think so
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    Post by Sylar_Kensei Fri 21 Aug 2009 - 20:49

    Flickerflame wrote:lol!
    When did he get her then?

    Sylar had Induced Radioactivity (or whatever Ted's power is called) by that time; hence the blast didn't kill him. He never got Claire until the day of the ceremony, when he revealed 'Nathan' was actually him. perhaps he was saved by Candice, and killed her just like in the V2 storyline, but the exact events were different following the destruction of NY.
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    Post by Wayward Daughter Fri 21 Aug 2009 - 20:49

    Oh, thanks. I didn't realise IR would be enough to protect him, but it's a bit obvious really.
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    Post by Sylar_Kensei Fri 21 Aug 2009 - 20:52

    Well it's just a guess Smile

    My question is, why did Nathan list to Hiro? He hadn't listend to Claire or Peter, but the only thing different between the two time-lines is Hiro calling him a villain (since that Hiro knew of the explosion-- we know Future Hiro didn't, otherwise he would remember that he would meet his past-self). Yet in the new time line, Nathan saves the day.
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    Post by Wayward Daughter Fri 21 Aug 2009 - 20:54

    Claire guilt-tripped him into it I think, she said something like "How can you live with yourself if you let this happen?" before she jumped through the window, and he hinted it was due to her.
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    Post by Superheroesfanatic-IR Fri 21 Aug 2009 - 20:59

    another thing i dont get is that

    nikki had MPD

    so why did jessica look different in the mirror?
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    Post by Wayward Daughter Fri 21 Aug 2009 - 21:00

    Just a device to help viewers distinguish between them. It'd be too confusing otherwise.
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    Post by Superheroesfanatic-IR Fri 21 Aug 2009 - 21:07

    ok.. so how come when she throws something in the mirror... it cracks but not where jessica is?
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    Post by Wayward Daughter Fri 21 Aug 2009 - 21:07

    Does it? I never noticed that
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    Post by Superheroesfanatic-IR Fri 21 Aug 2009 - 21:28

    tut tut lowri
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    Post by Wayward Daughter Fri 21 Aug 2009 - 21:30

    Rolling Eyes I wouldn't be paying much attention then, wouldn't I?
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    Post by Superheroesfanatic-IR Fri 21 Aug 2009 - 21:35

    why not?
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    Post by Wayward Daughter Fri 21 Aug 2009 - 21:35

    Guess Wink
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    Post by Superheroesfanatic-IR Fri 21 Aug 2009 - 21:36

    VK? Twilight?
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    Post by Wayward Daughter Fri 21 Aug 2009 - 21:37

    lol!

    How the hell did you come to that conclusion?
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    Post by Superheroesfanatic-IR Fri 21 Aug 2009 - 21:38

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    Post by Sylar_Kensei Fri 21 Aug 2009 - 22:15

    Flickerflame wrote:Claire guilt-tripped him into it I think, she said something like "How can you live with yourself if you let this happen?" before she jumped through the window, and he hinted it was due to her.

    But that's what I mean, that must already have happened in Future Hiro's timeline, since Claire was still alive: presumably she went through the exact same events with Nathan, only for him to still let the city explode...

    Of course, there's an even bigger issue: Future Hiro DID NOT KNOW that Claire was still alive in his time-line. He had traced everything back, and come to the conclusion that Sylar survived because he had regeneration. However, if Claire was still alive (as is proven in one of the future episodes (is it S2, when Hiro goes to the future, or S1? The bit where Peter and Sylar fight with IR, in the future, and Peter says something like 'My Brother can't walk through walls'), Sylar wouldn't have gotten that Power. That Future Hiro didn't know this, means he was never there/never interacted with Peter, otherwise he (like 'Our' Hiro) would know Claire was alive...

    So that's basically a long-winded way to say: Future Hiro went back to tell Peter to save Claire, but that hadn't happened in Future Hiro's past... So who saved Claire from Sylar at Homecoming in that Timeline?
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    Post by Wayward Daughter Fri 21 Aug 2009 - 22:18

    Claire wasn't alive in the first timeline. She was in the 5YG timeline, but because it had been f-Hiro who changed things he didn't realise anything had changed (Hiro knew Claire'd survived after Homecoming). Maybe Claire had to go into hiding immediately, from the company, so she never traced down her family?
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    Post by Sylar_Kensei Fri 21 Aug 2009 - 22:20

    That'd make sense I guess Smile

    Now if only S3 had kept that kind of logic: Future Peter KNEW the changed world when he took Peter there (i.e., he knew the 'Exposed' world, despite coming from the 'Hunted' world)
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    Post by Wayward Daughter Fri 21 Aug 2009 - 22:22

    Yep. Plot hole Rolling Eyes Or maybe he returned to that world, noticed it was different, and found out what had happened?
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    Post by Sylar_Kensei Fri 21 Aug 2009 - 22:24

    He seemed to know instantly (of course, he had met Matt, so maybe he could have read people's minds, and understood-- but I still think he was way too calm about it: if your whole world has changed, would you be that calm? Smile )

    Now something I seriously don't get, despite understanding the theatrical aspect: why bring back Adam to kill him in a few minutes, in a rubbish death? Sad
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    Post by Wayward Daughter Fri 21 Aug 2009 - 22:27

    To bring back Arthur? That's all I can think of.

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